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*Mistress-0f-Dragons sent me this video about the Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. As a hardcore LOZ fan, I was seriously interested and, let me tell you, I was mind-fucked to the max.
So what does one do when they're mind fucked? Proceed to dissect the topic of mind-fuckingness all the while consulting the almost biblical Hyrule Historia that outlines everything and anything that is Legend of Zelda.
Below is the conversation that my friend, *Mistress-0f-Dragons and I had that furthered the mind-fuckingness of the situation.
Enjoy and prepare to ruin your childhood... maybe
^ Game Theory: Is Link Dead in Majora's Mask?
--Wolf-Blossom: this is insane.
--Mistress-0f-Dragons: thought I would share it would you. But the way they explain it all makes sense
--Wolf-Blossom: it does make sense
--Wolf-Blossom: granted it doesn't follow the historia
--Wolf-Blossom: cuz it does say in the historia that termina is a parallel universe and that in twilight princess, the hero's shade is the hero of time
--Wolf-Blossom: as an adult
--Wolf-Blossom: unless that followed the adult timeline cuz ocarina of time DOES split into two time lines
--Wolf-Blossom: ohhh man... Zelda mind fuck
Wolf-Blossom: never mind
Wolf-Blossom: the theory DOES
Wolf-Blossom: tackle that too
Wolf-Blossom: so much sense... holy wow
Wolf-Blossom: link dies in a forest, thus turning into a stalfos
Wolf-Blossom: sees himself falling down a tree and then works his way up to acceptance. Which explains why there's no direct game after MM
Wolf-Blossom: cuz there was no more link
Mistress-0f-Dragons: not just any forest. The lost woods
Wolf-Blossom: WHICH MAKES SENSE IN WIND WAKER O____________________________O
Wolf-Blossom: cuz in wind waker they "prayed for the hero to return. But he didn't"
Mistress-0f-Dragons: yes and remember this too: no kokiri appear in any of the games besides oot
Mistress-0f-Dragons: cause they are allllll dead
Mistress-0f-Dragons: mass suicide
Wolf-Blossom: .... EHHH?!
Mistress-0f-Dragons: they left the forest
Mistress-0f-Dragons: at the end of oot you see them celebrating, but notice the background. That’s hyrule field
Wolf-Blossom: and kokiri can’t live outside the forest
Mistress-0f-Dragons: no they cant. They are immortal thanks to the protection of the deku tree/sprout
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but the deku tree tells them if they are to ever leave the forest they will die
Mistress-0f-Dragons: when I asked my friend that told me this why they would leave when they knew they would die he replied: "because they didn't have to fear ganondorf anyone"
Wolf-Blossom: but mass suicide? So they were all wiped out?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: yeah. But get this....
Mistress-0f-Dragons: I believe he said that it was either in oracles or seasons....
Mistress-0f-Dragons: (or one of the games I have to ask him again)
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but you come upon this large tree and you find forest people there
Mistress-0f-Dragons: said to be the last of the kokiri people
Wolf-Blossom: ... wow
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but I’m like waaaait a min.... you said they all died
Wolf-Blossom: omg the moon crashing terrible fate thing
Wolf-Blossom: makes sense O_O
Mistress-0f-Dragons: my mind was continually blown by what he said to me
Wolf-Blossom: but like... thinking now, it does make so much sense
Wolf-Blossom: why couldn't the hero pass down his knowledge?
Wolf-Blossom: why wasn't the hero there to save the world like said in the wind waker
Wolf-Blossom: and how come after ocarina of time
Mistress-0f-Dragons: the way the hero died is unknown
Wolf-Blossom: where there no more kokiri? There were koroks and other... things
Wolf-Blossom: when they needed him the most, he wasn't there
Wolf-Blossom: bitchass died in the lost woods
Wolf-Blossom: and became a stalfos -___-
Mistress-0f-Dragons: we don't know why the kokiri committed mass suicide
Mistress-0f-Dragons: so see? There are spots in the hyrule historia timeline that still need to be filled in
Mistress-0f-Dragons: he also said that at the end of oot when you met Zelda and she ask for the ocarina back that in a sense she never did send him back in time
Mistress-0f-Dragons: so see? Another twist
Wolf-Blossom: right... but at the VERY end you see link running up to her in the courtyard
Mistress-0f-Dragons: yeah..... But then this all goes back to his death
Mistress-0f-Dragons: why does he appear as a child in mm but an adult stafos in tp?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: saying that he was never able to pass on his teachings
Mistress-0f-Dragons: why would a child worry about passing on his teachings?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: and why would the hero get lost and die in the lost woods when he clearly knew how to transverse it to get to the forest temple
Wolf-Blossom: so wait... now I’m confused
Wolf-Blossom: he has two timelines
Wolf-Blossom: adult and young... so if he does when he’s young
Wolf-Blossom: but at the end Zelda says "regain your lost time"
Wolf-Blossom: meaning she sent him back
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but again why does he appear as an adult stalfos and regret that he can’t pass on his skills?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: my friend was also saying that in loz: seasons the hero spirit is not there. But in loz: oracles the hero spirit is coming back
Mistress-0f-Dragons: or something like that
Mistress-0f-Dragons: the fates won't allow the hero's soul ever to rest. He is the hero of time after all
Wolf-Blossom: that is true
Wolf-Blossom: so is it possible that
Wolf-Blossom: young link
Wolf-Blossom: in ocarina of time, after being sent BACK in time
Wolf-Blossom: knew his skills
Wolf-Blossom: thus searching for navi
Wolf-Blossom: never growing up
Wolf-Blossom: and never being able to pass on the skills he knew he had?
Wolf-Blossom: cuz remember, according to the hyrule historia, link goes to Zelda to warn her about the future, that’s the scene at the VERY end
Mistress-0f-Dragons: I think you’re onto something there
Wolf-Blossom: so it’s possible he KNEW what he knew, knew everything the hero's shade knew BUT never grew up to pass it on
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but this brings us again to his death in a forest and becoming a stalfos
Wolf-Blossom: he does in the forest, accepts his death
Wolf-Blossom: but he cannot do the techniques that he did as an adult as a child, right?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: and the only forest that would turn you into that is lost woods
Wolf-Blossom: cuz it’s stated that dying in the lost woods turns you into a stalfos, not a stalchild
Wolf-Blossom: perhaps the stalfos is an image of who link regretted never being able to become?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: I would imagine he can’t. Those are techniques to be used as adult. A child can’t use those skills
Wolf-Blossom: those are techniques he couldn’t pass on as a child <-- regret?
Wolf-Blossom: so the hero's shade is the essence of who he was/could've been IF he were to pass it on
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but why would he get lost/die in the lost woods?
Wolf-Blossom: the lost woods was maneuverable with saria's song
Wolf-Blossom: to the forest temple
Mistress-0f-Dragons: we know from oot that he knew the way to the forest temple
Wolf-Blossom: the rest of the lost woods were unexplored by link AND he couldn’t use his adult weapons which was used in the forest temple
Wolf-Blossom: link knew only one path through the woods
Wolf-Blossom: and that was to the grove
Wolf-Blossom: I’m just pulling shit out of thin air here
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but whenever you went a different way you would always end back up at the entrance. (But maybe that is just because that was the game)
Mistress-0f-Dragons: well as for the lost woods size, does it say in the hyrule historia how big it is?
Wolf-Blossom: it doesn’t say in the historia how big it is
Wolf-Blossom: all it says that those who were lost became skullchildren/stalfos
Wolf-Blossom: BUT my question is: skull children are lost kokiri's in the woods, right? So why does link become a stalfos and not a child?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: (I’m going to go out on a limb here and say you pulled out your hyrule historia right? lol)
Mistress-0f-Dragons: as for that remember, Link isn’t a true kokiri
Mistress-0f-Dragons: he is a hylian
Mistress-0f-Dragons: hence why he was able to grow up. Maybe that is why he turns into a stalfos and not a skull child
Wolf-Blossom: LMFAO yeah I did pull it out -____-
Wolf-Blossom: that’s true
Wolf-Blossom: perhaps because he’s able to grow up
Wolf-Blossom: he turns into the stalfos
Wolf-Blossom: they never really tell us the stipulation as to who turns into what
Wolf-Blossom: so it’s possible that he does in MM
Wolf-Blossom: but retains his memories (which is mentioned as fact)
Wolf-Blossom: and comes back in TP as the hero's shade
Wolf-Blossom: we cracked the code, we deserve a prize
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but then have at this info: Epona
Mistress-0f-Dragons: she appears in mm too
Wolf-Blossom: it could be link's memory to pass on, like they said in the theory
Wolf-Blossom: he sees practically everybody from the 1st game, and it’s ironic that those characters aren't recurring in ANY other Zelda game
Mistress-0f-Dragons: everyone except the kokiri
Wolf-Blossom: but link was under the impression that
Wolf-Blossom: the kokiri couldn’t live outside the forest
Wolf-Blossom: so, according to the historia, link supposedly leaves at the end of ocarina of time
Wolf-Blossom: at that final scene, Zelda sends him off so ganondorf can never find him
Mistress-0f-Dragons: but in mm does like link know he’s dead?
Wolf-Blossom: so if link leaves, he doesn’t know about them partying in ocarina of time
Wolf-Blossom: so he’s still under the assumption they cannot leave
Mistress-0f-Dragons: yeah. She sends him off
Wolf-Blossom: and I think link is aware towards the end that he is dead... though I don’t understand the oni link mask
Wolf-Blossom: IM CONFUSED NOW @_@
Mistress-0f-Dragons: could that mean Zelda killed him?
Wolf-Blossom: we do see the flashback in MM when he first encounters the moon
Mistress-0f-Dragons: oni link is cool. You know his hair is white. So maybe it’s something like dark link? Cause dark link has white hair too
Mistress-0f-Dragons: o.o maybe dark link is oni link?
Mistress-0f-Dragons: or vice versa
Mistress-0f-Dragons: You said: “at that final scene, Zelda sends him off so ganondorf can never find him” Then in mm he’s dead. So did Zelda kill him? If she killed him that means ganondorf could never find him
Wolf-Blossom: that is SO twisted
Wolf-Blossom: it actually works
Wolf-Blossom: if the triforce of courage
Wolf-Blossom: is dead
Wolf-Blossom: then ganondorf can never... enter the sacred realm.
Wolf-Blossom: to get the triforce and
Wolf-Blossom: this is some twisted theory
Wolf-Blossom: that can actually work out
Wolf-Blossom: "In fact, the Fierce Deity bears a partial resemblance to the Dark Interlopers who later became the Twili in Twilight Princess."
Mistress-0f-Dragons: your right!!!!!
Wolf-Blossom: but how does this fit in to any of this conspiracy theory we're creating
Mistress-0f-Dragons: I have no clue. lol
Mistress-0f-Dragons: whats the theory we are creating?
Wolf-Blossom: link's dead in MM
Mistress-0f-Dragons: ah that yes
Mistress-0f-Dragons: link knows his way around the lost woods
Mistress-0f-Dragons: so Zelda enters the lost woods and kills link
Mistress-0f-Dragons: hence his child form in mm
Wolf-Blossom: or she could've sent
Wolf-Blossom: the skullkid
Wolf-Blossom: hired one of her goonies to take him down
Mistress-0f-Dragons: ..... I don’t think Impa would kill Link
Mistress-0f-Dragons: shes a sage
Mistress-0f-Dragons: why would a sage kill the hero of time?
Wolf-Blossom: no no I mean Skullkid
Wolf-Blossom: Zelda could've sent Skullkid
Wolf-Blossom: which is why we see skullkid teasing Link in MM
Mistress-0f-Dragons: which would explain skullkid in mm
Wolf-Blossom: yess. so many theoriesss (worry)
Wolf-Blossom: only a game as awesome as Zelda could have conspiracy theories. That doesn't involve him being high on some sort of illegal substance